egyptair takeoff at Dulles Airport

An Egyptair international flight takes off from Dulles International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 22, 2023.

Loudoun supervisors on Tuesday directed the county staff to study neighboring jurisdictions’ travel policies, following a flap over recent visits to Loudoun’s international sister cities.

County staff members would study other county governments’ travel policies and develop a new policy for travel by county supervisors. It’s a step back from Supervisor Kristen C. Umstattd’s (D-Leesburg) proposal in July for new, more restrictive policies on county-funded travel by supervisors. County supervisors’ publicly funded travel expenses fall under the same policies as county government employees; Umstattd’s proposal would have set up separate, more restrictive policies specific to supervisors.

The discussion comes after an uproar over a county delegation’s travel expenses on a visit to Tema, Ghana, Loudoun’s newest sister city, by Chair Phyllis J. Randall (D-At Large), Vice Chair Koran T. Saines (D-Sterling), Supervisor Sylvia R. Glass (D-Broad Run) and their staff. That was followed by a long line of people signed up to speak both for and against those expenses during Tuesday night’s board meeting.

The study proposal was introduced by Saines, who said the concerns from the public were prompted by “misleading coverage.” His proposal, like Umstattd’s, contemplates a policy specific to supervisors and their aides.

“The intent behind the item is to address the feedback that we received, to update our travel policies, but to do so in a way that is reflective of our governing structure and the way that we operate,” he said.

He also compared the Ghana delegation’s expenses, which totaled just under $54,000, to trips by Gov. Glenn Youngkin.

“If you're not happy with us traveling, then hopefully you have the same feelings regarding the governor, which traveled to South Korea, Taiwan, and, while we were in Ghana, went to the Paris Air Show,” he said. “So if our travel was a boondoggle, I’m hoping you would say the same thing about that travel.”

Umstattd said she still plans to introduce her new rules for discussion at the board’s Sept. 19 meeting.

“We need to have travel approved by the board, both to personnel going, expenses, and also itinerary, so that we don’t run into the firestorm of public outrage over future trips that we have run into with these two trips,” Umstattd said. Among other changes, her proposal in July would discourage traveling internationally at all, remove the option in current policy to upgrade to business class for flights over 10 hours, and require the full Board of Supervisors to approve a travel itinerary and estimated costs in advance of any county-funded travel by board members or their staff.

“I don't think anyone up here was necessarily trying to rip the taxpayer off. I don't think that's the case at all,” Supervisor Caleb E. Kerhsner (R-Catoctin) said. “But I do think sometimes we get kind of comfortable in our positions, and it's important, I think, that we all step back, including my fellow supervisors, people in the public, and say ‘hey, let's take responsibility. Let's make sure we're spending our taxpayer dollars well.’”

Supervisors on the trip have defended the expenses as not falling on Loudoun taxpayers’ shoulders. Trip expenses were funded by the Economic Development Authority from a fund set up for international travel, which was funded through restricted transient occupancy tax revenues, a tax levied on overnight stays at accommodations like hotels and Airbnbs. Most of those revenues, the “restricted” portion of the tax, must be used for purposes such as encouraging tourism, rather than going into the county’s General Fund to offset other taxes.

“Fairfax County and many counties actually have offices in their sister county locations, and they have people who are staff in those offices, and taxpayer money pays for those offices,” Randall said. “The way we do it is different because we are trying to save money.”

“We would be practicing economic development malpractice if we were not to leverage the fact that we have an international airport at Dulles, and leveraging that international airport for economic diversity helps our entire economy and helps the airport,” Supervisor Juli E. Briskman (D-Algonkian), herself the target of some criticism over a previous delegation to Uruguay, said. “If our award-winning Department of Economic Development, Visit Loudon, and economic development director believe that having a couple of us along on that trip to help build relationships—I'm happy to join and offer my support.”

Supervisors voted for the travel policy study 8-1, with Umstattd opposed.

Saines’s plan directs county staff to study travel policies in Fairfax County, Prince William County, Montgomery County, MD, Prince George’s County, MD, and Frederick County, MD, and develop a travel policy proposal for Loudoun supervisors and their aides.

As in Loudoun, travel policies across the region—and in many governments—generally follow federal General Services Administration rates and policies for travel expenses, sometimes with some local modifications. Montgomery County, MD, for example, follows GSA rates, but restricts county-funded travel to states that restrict access to reproductive health care, a policy put in place after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.

Some of Loudoun’s rules for travel expenses are already more restrictive than federal rules. For example, Loudoun policy has employees flying coach, but allows an upgrade to business class for international flights over 10 hours. By contrast, federal policy allows flying business class under a range of circumstance, including if employees are required to report to duty the next day or sooner—or on any international flight.

Federal policy allows business class airline tickets on any flight over eight hours to or from destinations outside the continental U.S., which includes Alaska, Hawaii, U.S. territories like Puerto Rico, and any other country, including neighboring Canada and Mexico. Federal travelers may also upgrade to business class on the government dime for a number of other reasons, such as if flight time, including layovers, is more than 14 hours; if necessary to accommodate a disability or other special need; in “exceptional security circumstances;” or if coach is unavailable.

Little discussed have been possible problems around open meetings law with three supervisors on the trip—if three or more supervisors gather to discuss county business, it must be in a public meeting.

(31) comments

DaveBase

How do transient occupancy taxes on Loudoun hotels and Airbnbs, the costs of which are passed along to the tourists, encourage tourism in Loudoun County?

wvamackie

I don't care about neighboring counties. If I wanted even worse government, I would have bought a home in Fairfax. Obviously, some, ESPECIALLY, the chairman don't have the sense to see the folly in their decisions. We can elect better.

BHLTC

Maybe these days 2 wrongs do make a right...🙄

chrisD

It is easy...Pay Your Own Way !! There is NO reason to go to another country. People are struggling and yu do not care. You ALL Need To Be Voted OUT !!!

Brad Holdridge

1. Gov Youngkin did it. That doesn't make it ok! If a child said this any parent would respond, if everybody else jumped off a bridge would you do it too?

2. 'I don't think anyone up here was necessarily trying to rip the taxpayer off.

...all step back, including my fellow supervisors, and say ‘hey, let's take responsibility.'

Let's make sure we're spending our taxpayer dollars well?!?! If these people aren't going to work every day thinking, 'this is tax payer money'... EVERY DAY. Not... Oh yea, let's remember.

3. 'Supervisors on the trip have defended the expenses as not falling on Loudoun taxpayers’ shoulders.' aka We're not wasting YOUR tax dollars, we're wasting OTHER tax payer dollars that travel to Loudoun. How does that make it ok?!?!

4. Policy review! Why? If the trip was justified, simply explain why and how it specifically benefits Loudoun County. That's it.

JoeSchmoe

They should just stay home and work on reducing taxes.

BHLTC

disappointedloudouner

We are getting electric busses and county government cars because the supervisors said it would help combat global warming and reduce pollution and yet they jetset around the world. with today's technology there is no reason to travel, they can use programs like Microsoft Teams and Zoom.

BHLTC

Another spot on comment

Aedwards01

So their go to is whataboutism? Oh look what the governor did. Jesus these people are ridiculously obtuse. The governor of a state has significantly more reason to travel out of the country than local county supervisors. I FOIAd all their pics from their trips which every tax paying citizen should do. They were on a vacation plain and simple

BHLTC

100%

Bluesman

So Randall stuffs the meeting full of her supporters. Good god. What gall.

These people like Randall and Briskman absolutely laugh at us, and we continue to accept it. They think they are so entitled.

C'mon people. PLEASE vote these clowns out of the BOS, the DA, and the School Board. Just a pack of lying partisans.

BHLTC

Let's go!

Hikerva

Seems the entire BOS, including Randall, need to be voted out next election.

What, by the way, were Randall's qualifications for this job as Chair?

kronos

Do you refer to the fact that Scott York was going to step down, but when Charles King was running as the Republican he decided to re-enter as an independent, split the Republican vote, and handed the election to Randall who would have otherwise lost that election?

kronos

If Randall, Saines, Glass, and Briskman could show us the economic benefits that came as a direct result from their trips, and show how they exceeded the cost of those trips, I think nearly everyone would simply move on. In this case, they cannot show any benefits. It is a misuse of taxpayer money and shows they are in this for themselves.

At least the last Chair who did this… Scott York… brought the North American HQ of Biogrund, GmbH, to Loudoun. Unfortunately, 5 years later under Randall’s stewardship they moved to Kentucky.

If the move is purely symbolic, you get to send one Supervisor plus one administrative assistant… and then only for a short duration so they can do the handshake and photo op. If there is a real economic benefit coming from it, as long as the influx of money exceeds the cost of the trip they can do whatever.

Tadpole

So their response is to say it’s ok in other counties? These people are so lost. Vote them out.

BHLTC

Agreed 👍

Equity not Exceptional

Sup Saines isn’t smart enough to know that Gov Youngkin as part of his job is to travel nationally and internationally to bring economic benefits to the state.

Chairman Randall packed the meeting with some folks not Loudoun Co residents. Randall lies come naturally to her and she continues to lie about the trip.

Chairman Randall staff were thin skinned. One of her staff in the chamber yelled at one of the candidates from the back of the chamber. Randall should have reprimanded him but she did not because he came with her on the trip.

Outside the chamber another one of Randall staff was to allege to grab the arm of a Loudoun Co resident taking a picture of Gary Katz. This was simple assault on this person. Her staff better learn to not touch anyone!

Chairman Randall needs to get her act together and advise her staff that the Loudoun Co taxpayer is not to be treated this way. She operates and staff like they are untouchable!

The citizens speaking are suppose to give their place of residence but they don’t. The dissing of the reporter Nick Minnock was uncalled for. The facts are what the FOIA said and it showed that there were NO economic benefits on the sister city trips to Loudoun Co.

Chairman Randall and her lies keep getting bigger and bigger!

BHLTC

What the governor does has nothing to do with the Loudoun County issues. Zero

Chris Manthos

Umstattd is the last Supervisor with any credibility. The rest of them, despise us.

David Dickinson

Loudoun's supervisors have no reason to travel internationally. Ever.

MollyMcLoudoun

Agree!

ace10

I used to think that the members of the BoS simply weren't "good people."

Turns out I was totally wrong. They're actually BAD PEOPLE.

Governance shouldn't be like this. And it boils down to office holders who simply don't care about us. In fact, that's too soft... they have contempt for us.

If you're not part of their pet projects, you're simply a "source of funding."

BHLTC

norges53

Good grief Caleb! They did rip off the taxpayer you need to broaden your horizon's some. Let study the above list all very liberal county's that will give Randall the Scandal cover. Saines must have eaten enough to feed a starving village in Ghana. Wake Glass up. Briskmans finest political moment was waving her middle finger and she has gone downhill since then. I call BS on the study!

BHLTC

Yes

timsmith

The supervisors can study this issue to death. But they can't ignore the fact that taxpayers are outraged with their shenanigans. Supervisors who are defending the junkets are totally out of touch with the mood of the county. In these tough times, taxpayers don't want elected officials living big on the public dime. Truth be told, this scandal just might nix the incumbents' reelection bids. If so, I shall not shed a tear.

java1981

For the very first time, and possibly last time, I agree with you Timmy.

LittleMansAdvocate

One of the big problems is, the supervisors think they are a lot bigger than they are. Right off the bat, throwing out trips the Governor of VA took, trying to compare. The Gov of VA and a loudoun county supervisors are like Major Leagues and Little League the local county politicians need to be just that local county politicians. Seems like Loudoun Counties Economic Development would survive without going to places like Ghana.

BHLTC

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